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Under Ronald Reagan Confirmed IRS is a FRAUD!!!

« on: April 13, 2008,
03:14:12 PM »

1984: Grace Commission Report under Ronald
Reagan showed IRS is a fraud that collects taxes for the
Banking Dynasties
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/msg/3a3764aa8d4c5e22?

"100%
of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the
Federal Debt ... all
individual income tax revenues are
gone before one nickel is spent on the services
taxpayers
expect from government."
-Grace Commission report submitted
to President Ronald Reagan - January 15, 1984

Ronald
Reagan was promptly shot after he dared to criticize the Fed,
on the same day
that the Pope was shot. After recovering,
he changed his mind and praised the Fed. About
seven US
Presidents have been assassinated for not cooperating with the
Transatlantic
Banking Dynasties (William Henry Harrison,
poisoned, in 1841, Zachary Taylor, Lincoln,
Garfield,
McKinley and John F. Kennedy 1963; 7 if FDR's poisoning is
counted).

Most of us feel sick when we realize that Not
one dime of IRS money goes to the US
Gov't, according to
Reagan's Grace Commission: it all goes to pay interest on a
bogus
debt to the Private Federal Reserve (FED), just to
allow paper money to circulate as
"Federal Reserve Notes".
The Federal Reserve is a private Corporation eventually
owned
by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds Dynasties through
intermediary agents, designed to
suck the capital dry from
the U.S., as the Rothschilds do in Europe. Read Billions
for
the http://www.deepinfo.com/email/Billions4Bankers.htm
Bankers, Debts for the People
More Links at DeepInfo.com on
Jekyll Island http://www.deepinfo.com/more/jekyll.htm
.

The final report of the 1984 Grace Commission,
convened under President Ronald Reagan,
quietly admitted
that none of the funds they collect from federal income taxes
goes to
pay for any federal government services. The Grace
Commission found that those funds
were being used to pay
for interest on the federal debt, and income transfer payments
to
beneficiaries of entitlement programs like federal
pension plans.

These comments were presented at the
Close of the Citizens' Truth-In-Taxation
Hearing.Washington
D.C., February 27-28, 2002: IRS is a Trust
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
Headquartered in Puerto Rico Not a
Federal Agency The IRS
is technically not an "agency" of the federal government, as
that
term is defined in the Freedom of http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/552.html
Information
Act and in the Administrative http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/551.html
Procedures
Act. The governments of the federal territories are expressly
excluded from
the definition of "agency" in those Acts of
Congress. See 5 U.S.C. 551
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/551.html
(1)(C).  All evidence indicates that they
are a money
laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a
pattern of
racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C.
1951
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1951.html
and 1961
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1961.html
et seq. They appear to be laundering
huge sums of money
into foreign banks, mostly in Europe, and quite possibly into
the
Vatican. See the national policy on money laundering at
31
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/5341.html
U.S.C. 5341 . Do federal income tax
revenues pay for any
government services and, if so, which government services
are
funded by federal income taxes? Answer: No. The money
trail is very difficult to follow,
in this instance,
because the IRS is technically a trust with a domicile in
Puerto
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/cooper/cooper.htm
Rico. See 31
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/1321.html
U.S.C. 1321(a)(62). As such, their
records are protected by
laws which guarantee the privacy of trust records within
that
territorial jurisdiction, provided that the trust is
not also violating the Sherman
Antitrust http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1.html
Act.

"Like it or not, you are a slave. You admit you
are a slave every April 15th!  That's
when you sign
forms that "voluntarily" lay bare to the government the most
private
details of your life! And few people realize the
income tax is a slave tax. It can never
be compatible with
the life of a free people". ALAN KEYES - Republican Nominee
for
President, unfortunately, the only Republican willing
to speak out along with Ron Paul.

Visit here...
Interest On The Debt! http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/interest.html
...and
gulp!

Sit down when you view it. People have fainted
when they see the size of the Debt Hole
we're now
in!

The "President's Private Sector Survey on Cost
Control", commonly referred to as the
1984 Reagan "Grace
Commission Report" reveals that 100% of the "income tax"
collected is
applied against the interest of the national
debt. The government operates on a deficit
that is created
from nothing by the Privately Owned Fed (owned by the same
folks who own
the major commercial banks) at interest, i.e.
what could be created debt free and usury
free by the
Treasury has been usurped by the Banking Dynasties who have
been ruling the
World since ancient times. Taxes are a way
of controlling, or manipulating the economy.
They also give
people a faith in the funny money -- makes it Near and dear to
them.
Balanced budgets and budget surpluses are a smoke and
mirror trick. They sound really
good, playwell for the
people, but are nothing more than panderings. I'm not going
into
it, period, but if any should care to make the study,
you will be at first incredulous,
then angered by the
depths of deception under which the people of this country
labor.

Even the inventor of the electric light, Thomas
Edison, joined the fray in criticizing
the system of the
Federal Reserve: "If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it
can issue
a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond
good, makes the bill good, also... It is
absurd to say that
our country can issue $30 million in bonds and not $30 million
in
currency. Both are promises to pay, but one promise
fattens the usurers and the other
helps the
people."

In President Lincoln's words (he was
assassinated by the Banksters' agent) ""The
Government
should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and
credits needed to
satisfy the spending power of the
Government and the buying power of consumers. By
the
adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be
saved immense sums of interest."

"In a recent
conversation with an official at the Internal Revenue Service,
I was amazed
when he told me that 'If the taxpayers of this
country ever discover that the IRS
operates on 90% bluff
the entire system will collapse'". -Henry Bellmon, Senator
(1969)

"Our federal tax system is, in short, utterly
impossible, utterly unjust and completely
counterproductive
[it] reeks with injustice and is fundamentally un-American...
it has
earned a rebellion and it's time we rebelled".
-President Ronald Reagan, May 1983,
Williamsburg,
VA

"Our Income Tax system is a disgrace to the human
race."  -Jimmy Carter, said in 1976 by
the then
President-to-be

"Eight decades of amendments... to
[the] code have produced a virtually impenetrable
maze...
The rules are unintelligible to most citizens... The rules are
equally
mysterious to many government employees who are
charged with administering and enforcing
the law". -Shirley
Peterson, Former IRS Commissioner, April 14, 1993 at
Southern
Methodist University

"The wages of the
average American worker, after inflation and taxes, have
decreased 17%
since 1973, the only Western industrial
nation to so suffer". -Martin Gross, author of
"The Tax
Racket: Government Extortion From A to Z"

_____________________________

1. What is
money?
http://www.evolutionaryjustice.com/images/NSP_Booklet.pdf
...
the creation of the Fractional (Federal) Reserve Banking
system, the ... Grace
Commission report submitted to.
President Ronald Reagan on January 15, 1984 " ...

2.
Ronald Reagan - State of the Union 1985
http://reagan2020.us/speeches/state_of_the_union_1985.asp

3.
Ronald Reagan's Fourth Stateof the Union Speech -
Wikisource

We're moving ahead with Grace commission
reforms to eliminate and iA We'remprove ...
continue to
cooperate with the Federal Reserve Board, seeking a steady
policy ...

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan's_Fourth_State_of_the_Union_Speech
- 38k - Cached

9. Federal Reserve is a private
corporation. The Department of the Treasury, which is
on
the Internal Revenue ... Ronald Reagan, in a report to
the Grace Commission in ...

www.freedomfiles.org/tax/biglies.htm - 7k -

They Told The Truth! ...About The Internal Revenue
Service

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« Reply #1 on: April 13,
2008, 04:52:52 PM »

And people are 'clinging' to this so called
'economy' !

Why? Beats me completely. Have you learnt
nothing?

Sooner everything goes to shit, the
better.

I've been waiting most of my life for everyone
to wakeup. Just didn't quite know it. Got blagged into
thinking I was a drug crazed, nature loving no hoper with an
attitude problem. And maybe I was but now I've got
prospects

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And people are 'clinging' to this so called
'economy' !

Like a 'copter pilot with half a
propeller.

I agree with you 100%.  The sooner the
revolution, the faster we curttail their damage.

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1984: Grace Commission Report under Ronald
Reagan showed IRS is a fraud that collects taxes for the
Banking Dynasties
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/msg/3a3764aa8d4c5e22?

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Grace Commission ( Aka President's
Private Sector, Survey on Cost
Control)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6662&st=0&

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« Reply #7 on: March 03,
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IRS-The Biggest Lie and Scam in World
History
http://ricoforsheriff.com/irs-liens-and-levys

IRS-probably
the three most frightening letters in the English
language.    This deep-seated fear and loathing
serves a very specific purpose.  It serves to keep the
People of America in submission to an illusion, a
lie.

The IRS has a horrible reputation and has earned
every bit of it, has by their own admissions committed crimes
against innocent Citizens, and continues today to be the
“Gestapo” of America.  They confiscate more homes,
destroy more families, take more money, ruin more lives, and
commit more crimes than all the street gangs combined.
They are indeed vivid proof that the greatest threat we face,
as a nation, is our own Federal "Government." [The County
Sheriff: America’s Last Hope.  Author Richard
Mack].

Here it is in a nutshell.  The IRS is a
private, debt collection agency for the private banking system
known as the Federal Reserve Bank.  The IRS is not a
government agency.  I repeat, the IRS is not a government
agency.  Never has been, never will be.

The IRS is
formerly the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) situated in and
with authority only in the Philippine Islands (Trust Fund #
61), and moved into Puerto Rico (Trust Fund # 62).  In
the 1950’s, with the stroke of the pen, the BIR was
transformed into the current notorious IRS and brought onto
the 50 united States.  This was done without any
Congressional authority whatsoever.  There is no
Congressional authority for the IRS to exist and operate in
the 50 states recorded anywhere in any law-books.  Again,
keep in mind, that the IRS is the “Private, debt collection
agency for the private banking system known as the Federal
Reserve Banks”.

Consider this fact.  When an IRS
agent wants to seize property from a Citizen in a County, they
must first contact the Sheriff of the County and request
assistance in the seizure.  This is simply because the
IRS agent has no authority to seize any property at all.
So the IRS agent bamboozles the Sheriff into committing the
crime for the IRS.  When the Sheriff seizes property from
a Citizen under the non-authority of the IRS agent, the
Sheriff has committed a Second Degree Felony, Conversion of
Property.

A second degree felony is incredibly
serious.  However, both the IRS agent and the Sheriff
count on the abysmal ignorance of the Citizen who has no idea
what their Lawful Rights are.  Bear this point in mind,
if the IRS agent has no authority to seize any property at
all, then they cannot delegate or confer to the Sheriff what
they themselves do not have.  In addition, the Sheriff
has no idea that he has engaged in a serious crime.  Here
is where the maxim applies, "Ignorance of the law, is no
excuse for violating the law."   Both the IRS agent
and the Sheriff should be arrested and charged with Conversion
of property, a second degree felony.

Tyranny is
defined as:  Dominance through threat of punishment and
violence, oppressive rule, abusive government, cruelty and
injustice.  What better definition than  this fits
the abusive IRS.

America is using a private credit
system wherein the medium of exchange are the Federal Reserve
Notes that we call “Dollars”.  Hence, the so-called
“Income Tax” is in reality nothing more than a disguised “User
Fee” that Americans must pay to the Federal Reserve Bank for
using their private credit system. [research Title 12, USC].

The legal definition of "dollar" is "a gold or silver
coin of a specific weight and with specific markings".
Thus, a Federal Reserve Note, is not and cannot, ever be a
dollar.  A Note is not "money", see Blacks Law
Dictionary.  The Federal Reserve Notes in use are mere
evidence of a debt.

The Federal Reserve Banking system
is not a Federal government agency, there are not “reserves”
and there is no real money.  The Federal Reserve Banking
system is a private cartel that has usurped the authority of
the Congress to coin Money.   Federal Reserve Notes
are just as worthless or just as valuable as Monopoly Money
used in the game “Monopoly”.  If we go to this
Constitution for the united States of America, Article I,
section 8, we find that only Congress was given the authority
“To coin money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign
Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and
Measures”.

This authority given to Congress by this
Constitution for the united States of America was not to be
delegated to any private corporation for that corporation’s
private gain.

The authority to coin money was usurped
by the unlawful enactment of the Federal Reserve Act of
1913.  The Federal Reserve Act is a "private law" passed
by four Congressmen after the Congressional session closed in
December of 1913.  Congress can pass both private laws
and public laws.  Congress does not have to tell the
American Citizens which law is private and which law is
public.  We are simply led to believe that all laws are
public.  This is propoganda and brainwashing at its best.

This was a silent coup d’ e-tat wherein the American
People became the slaves of the Federal Reserve Bank.
The “Killing Blow”, the coup de grace[pronounced gra] was
delivered upon the American People by Franklin D. Roosevelt in
1933 by removing the Gold Standard from the American economy.

Since then, no American Citizen has actually paid for
anything, we have just exchanged worthless Federal Reserved
Notes for more worthless Federal Reserve Notes.  All we
do is lease the property from the “STATE OF NEW MEXICO”, we
lease our cars, we lease our houses, WE OWN NOTHING.
Since 1933 no American has owned their property in
Allodium.  That is why the "STATE OF NEW MEXICO" can take
our property for just about any reason, i.e Eminent domain,
failure to pay so-called "property taxes", etc.

For
anyone that has ever dealt with a debt collection agency, you
know how nasty, mean and dirty they can be.  Now, take
that nastiness, that mean-ness and dirtiness and multiply it
one hundred fold, there you have the attitude of the
IRS.

Let’s continue down the Rabbit Hole.  When an
American Citizen gets into a dispute with the IRS, the IRS
agent will not listen to any of your pleadings, your beggings
or your excuses.  Everything you do or say amounts to
nothing with the IRS.  If you dig in your heels and
refuse to pay, the IRS starts sending you threatening letters
with dire consequences for your non-cooperation.

If you
still refuse to pay, the IRS will file a document called a
“Notice of Federal Tax Lien” in the local County Clerk’s
office.  This is a very deceptive document.  Keep
one thing in mind a “Notice” is not the “Lien” itself.
The “Lien” is a totally separate and distinct document from
the “Notice”.  The County Clerk, through abysmal
ignorance files the “Notice of Federal Tax Lien” as if it was
an actual “Lien”.  These are two separate and distinct
documents.  The County Clerk never requests the actual
“Lien” from the IRS agent.  If they were to request this
document, the IRS agent would get very irate and threaten the
County Clerk for their non-cooperation.  Of course, the
actual “Lien” does not exist anywhere in the known
Universe.

There is one more lawful requirement that the
County Clerk must comply with before they can file the “Notice
of Federal Tax Lien” or the actual “Lien” itself.  The
Federal Lien Registration Act requires “Certification” of the
“Lien” itself. This would require that the IRS agent file an
Affidavit wherein they identify themselves, and state under
Oath that there is an actual “Lien” filed based on an actual
assessment on form 23C against the particular American
Citizen.  When the County Clerk fails to verify
“Certification” they violate the lawful requirements of the
Federal Lien Registration Act.

The IRS never files the
actual “Lien” because it does not exist.  An actual
“Lien” must be based on a lawful assessment on form 23C.
In the entire history of the IRS, the IRS has never
produced a form 23C showing an individual assessment against
an American Citizen.

This so-called “Notice of Federal
Tax Lien” is an act of “Financial Terrorism” because once this
“Notice” is filed, you become a pariah, a financial outcast,
you are branded as unfit, you are no longer a “good slave”,
you are a rebel beyond the hope of redemption.  Your
slave “Credit Rating” takes a nosedive.  You are
practically ruined financially.

Interestingly, Section
803 of the so-called PATRIOT ACT defines terrorism as “any act
intended to coerce or threaten a civilian population”.
So by the very definition of “Terrorism”, the IRS is the
largest, meanest, dirtiest, Terrorist Organization in the
entire world.

If you still are not intimidated, the IRS
will file a “Notice of Levy” with the County Clerk, and send
copies to your bank(s) and employer.  The County Clerk,
through abysmal ignorance, files the “Notice of Levy” as if it
were an actual “Levy”.  These are two separate and
distinct documents.

Again, keep in mind, a “Notice” is
not a “Levy”.  On this “Notice” alone, the bank then
hands over all of your money to the IRS and you cannot even
pay your bills.  Your employer garnishes your paycheck,
and again, you are the slave of the Federal Reserve
Bank.  Your Bank treats the “Notice of Levy” as if it
were an actual “Levy”.  Your employer also treats the
“Notice of Levy” as if it were an actual “Levy”.  The
bank and your employer never request an actual copy of the
“Levy” itself.  Of course, the actual “Levy” does not
exist anywhere in the known Universe.

There are several
things wrong with these two scenarios.  Both the bank and
your employer fail to verify several key pieces of information
in dealing with the IRS agent.

First, they fail to ask
for a copy of the IRS agent’s drivers license to verify that
in fact they are who they say they are.  Also, in case,
the IRS agent has to be served with legal process, they can be
located.  All IRS agents have been given instructions to
never provide this information to any one asking for it.
Thus, the true identity of the IRS agent is never
established.  Pretty convenient, huh!

Second, the
bank and your employer fail to request a copy of the “Pocket
Commission” from the IRS agent.  Every IRS agent receives
what is called a “Pocket Commission”.  This “Pocket
Commission” identifies the IRS agent’s authority as to his/her
actions.  The most common “Pocket Commission” is what is
called “Administrative”.  This is identified with a
capital “A” on their identity card.  This means that this
IRS agent can shuffle paperwork all day, but he/she does not
have any “Enforcement” authority whatsoever.

The other
“Pocket Commission” is what is called “Enforcement”.  The
word “Enforcement” might convey the message that this IRS
agent actually has unlimited authority to “Enforce” something
against American Citizens.  That is not the case at
all.  They have an extremely limited scope of
authority.  In fact, they cannot enforce anything against
American Citizens.

Both the bank and your employer fail
to request a copy of the “Pocket Commission” from the IRS
agent in order to establish the authority of the IRS
agent.  I am fairly confident that all agents that send
out notices to banks and employers have an “Administrative
Pocket Commission”.  Thus, both your bank and your
employer steal your money and send it to a Terrorist Agency
known as the IRS.

Thirdly, the bank and your employer
fail to request a copy of the actual assessment on form
23C.  Again, never in the history of this country has an
American Citizen been assessed an Income Tax on a form
23C.  Without this so-called assessment on this specific
form, form 23C, there is no debt.  So the bank and your
employer fail to verify this alleged debt and thus, steal your
money.

Fourth, the bank and your employer fail to
request of copy of the “Abstract of the Court Judgment”.
This document would show that you were actually sued by the
IRS and that you had your day in court.  The Seventh
Amendment of the Bill of Rights of this Constitution for the
united States of America guarantees you the Right of Trial by
Jury in any controversy where the amount shall exceed twenty
dollars.  Of course, you were never sued and you never
had your day in court.  Thus, your Due Process of Law
Rights are totally violated and again, you are further
enslaved to the Federal Reserve Bank.

So then, we come
to the end of the Rabbit Hole.  You have never owed any
money to the IRS.  The IRS is simply the enforcer, the
debt collector for the Federal Reserve Banking System.
However, because you are using a private credit system,
wherein the medium of exchange are fancy pieces of paper
called Federal Reserve Notes, you owe the Federal Reserve Bank
a “user fee”.

By way of information, the IRS does not
have a bank account wherein your tax payments are
deposited.  All of your tax payments are deposited into
the bank account of the Federal Reserve Bank in one region or
another.

The Federal Reserve Banks and the IRS
constitute the single largest sting operation, the single
largest fraud and the single largest swindle in the history of
the World.

In order to keep this "Alice in Wonderland"
illusion going, the so-called "government" developed an entire
industry to support and perpetuate this fraud.  The tax
preparation industry.  Tax preparers, accountants,
so-called Certified Public Accountants, self proclaimed
financial gurus advising about tax loopholes, etc.,
etc.

All the current paycheck garnishments in the
entire country could be stopped by having your employer
request the above mentioned documents, to wit:

1. A copy of the Driver’s License of the IRS
agent
2. A copy of the “Pocket Commission”
showing the authority of the IRS agent
3. A
copy of the assessment shown on form 23C against the American
Citizen
4. A copy of the “Abstract of the
Court Judgment” that verifies that you had a trial by
jury.

As Sheriff of San Miguel County, I will provide
educational classes to the County Clerk and the employers who
are currently garnishing wages and paychecks to identify areas
where they may have broken the law and unwittingly stolen
their employees Federal Reserve Notes and thus committed
“Conversion of Property”, a second degree
felony.

Furthermore, I will work closely with the
County Clerk through education and knowledge so that the Clerk
can stop breaking the law and committing financial terrorism
against the Citizens of San Miguel County.

When the
Citizens of San Miguel County elect me as their new Sheriff in
town, I will ban the IRS from San Miguel County, and if I
catch an IRS agent within the boundaries of the county,
without my permission, I will arrest them for TRESPASSING.

- Rico S. Giron, Future Sheriff of San Miguel
County

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Re:
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« Reply #8 on: March 03,
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from: Route on March 03, 2011, 11:08:58 AM

IRS-The Biggest Lie and Scam in World
History

it's just amazing how people cling to
this lie/scam !!!!

"Oh we can't end the IRS, are you
crazy ? That's one of our most important government
institutions, without them no one would pay taxes and america
would go broke !"

"End the Fed ? what ? don't be silly,
that's where all our money comes from ! you shut them down and
it's economic collapse for all !"

W T
F..................where did this line of thinking come from ?
oh that's right MSM and a government run "education" system
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« Reply #9 on: March 03,
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Great info, Route!!

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« Reply #10 on: March 03,
2011, 12:06:03 PM »

Here it is in a nutshell.  The IRS is a
private, debt collection agency for the private banking system
known as the Federal Reserve Bank.  The IRS is not a
government agency.  I repeat, the IRS is not a government
agency.  Never has been, never will
be/
**********************************************************************

This
is incredible information...
not just the quote above, but
all of it.

i remember one year when I was
audited
because I had "an unusual ammount of medical
deductions",
according to the IRS agent.

I will
never forget the relief I felt when she waved her hand and
said
"I'll allow it ".

I left amazed at the amount
of power this one person had.
I wondered what might have
happened if:

1. she did not have a cold that day
!
2. she was not overscheduled that day !
3. she had not
attended the same demonstration against Viet Nam as my
ex-husband did !
4. she did not feel like adding up all my
slips of paper that were my receipts !

Again, the
amount of power that one person,
one employee has,
in
this organization is mind-boggling .

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Re:
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« Reply #11 on: March 03,
2011, 12:28:45 PM »

Well, if it weren't for the unwritten policy
that illegals can vote over & over without presenting ID,
nor being registered to vote, Rico Giron would probably have
been elected.  He is exactly what every county in America
needs.

Or, if it goes the way with corruption in
elections on a grander scale like the re-election of Harry
Reid in Nevada, he's just lucky to be alive.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03,
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More on "The Grace
Commission":
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6662

Includes link to consolidated PDF of
documents connected to this!

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« Reply #13 on: March 03,
2011, 01:47:30 PM »

Although I applaud the sentiment and
effort of the info in this thread, I don't agree that the IRS
is a fraud.  Sure, they do indeed seem to engage
in tactics against individuals that are not honorable, and yes
they are 100% responsible for the fear campaign that keeps the
lie going.

HOWEVER, the IRS is an administrative
entity.  It is tasked with the assessment and collection
of taxes imposed by Congress through their Constitutional
authority to do so.  Now, before everyone gets all uppity
and screams at me, please consider that language and context
are important... even when simply explaining the
law.

Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution
authorizes Congress to lay and collect taxes (this means
DIRECT taxes), duties, imposts and excises.  The income
tax is an excise tax and the 16th Amendment neither granted
Congress any additional taxing power nor did it change the
nature of Congress's existing authority (see Brushaber v.
Union Pacific Railroad).  SCOTUS has also ruled
consistently that the words "excise" and "privilege" are
synonymous.  This means that the income tax is a tax upon
a privileged activity... the feds aren't taxing the money, but
the activity that generated it.

Given that context, one
has to ask "What activity am I engaging in that is considered
a privilege?".  Surely no one could or would suggest that
merely working, exchanging one's labor for an agreed
remuneration, is a "privilege" somehow facilitated by the
federal government?

We have to remember, the federal
government was consistently referred to by the Founders as the
external government or the foreign agent.  They were
explicit in their desire to keep domestic issues and
jurisdiction within the States' purview, and that of
interfacing with foreign nations and governments in the
capable hands of the federal government.  In a very real
and literal sense, Congress has no jurisdiction within the 50
states of the union.  That also means that any
administrative office or body of the Executive is without such
jurisdiction as well.

Being that this is the case,
there must be some mechanism by which the IRS ensnares
individuals otherwise NOT engaged in what could possibly be
considered "privileged" activity.  Here is where we find
the unwitting culprit of our so-claimed liability... private
payers... those erroneously requiring American citizens to
disclose a "taxpayer I.D." (SS#), and then filing information
returns (filled with LIES) such as W2's and 1099's to the IRS.
Keep in mind that 99% of the time, these companies are
not even authorized to use these forms AT
ALL.

Ultimately, the "fight" is not with the IRS.
I wholeheartedly agree that this entity needs to GTFO of
our lives, but getting into it directly with them means you're
too late!  Without erroneous information returns which
the IRS can use as presumptive and prima facie evidence
against you, they have 1. no evidence, 2. no reason to bother
you, and 3. no defense should they try to.

From the
court's point of view, if the IRS has evidence that you are
one of those held liable for the tax, it doesn't matter what
you say... since you basically requested that your private
payer disregard fact and act as if something else is
true.

YES, it's f**ked up!!  YES, the entire setup
needs exposed and fixed!!  But constantly attacking them
with emotional reactionary pleadings of fairness has not
worked and will never work.  Claiming the IRS is
unconstitutional isn't exactly true, so that argument will
never fly.

What the People need to do is quit being so
f**king lazy and get back to understanding some basic legal
principles:

1. The federal government has NO
JURISDICTION in domestic matters, save for some very narrow
circumstances.

2. Your LABOR is your PROPERTY, and to
trade it for money is a RIGHT.  There is no privilege
involved in this activity.

3. Your private sector payer
is the bad guy here.  They are LYING about you to the IRS
because they are ignorant and afraid.

4. If you don't
know how to read a codified statute in consideration of the
rules of statutory construction, STOP ARGUING FOR OR AGAINST
IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, ADMITTEDLY, NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT.

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